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The point is that, most likely, the controller existed before this vape. Buying an off the shelf part can be cheaper than trying to bring up some custom part, both in cost and possibly in overall resources. by jayd16 2 hours ago

The only environment-friendly solution is to forbid this product to exist in the first place. by rglullis 56 minutes ago

- humans are expensive.

- If you want a custom part, you will need specialized equipment to build that part.

- If you want a custom part, you will maybe need to transport that part all around the world, while the off-the-shelf components might already be available close to your assembly plant. by rglullis 48 minutes ago

We want people to vape rather than smoke tobacco, obviously, it's not a zero-sum issue. by lyu07282 26 minutes ago

And we're all gonna die, why would we have laws at all?

When we say "disposable vape", it's not to say "it will eventually stop working". It's more to say "you use it, you throw it away".

> E-waste recycling is a profitable

I don't doubt it's profitable, but it's most certainly not a good thing for the planet. Recycling is generally not a solution to waste.

> The problem here is planned obsolescence in a product's design. That is what needs to be made illegal.

Seriously? We're talking about DISPOSABLE VAPES. They are built to last as short a time as possible. At this point I am not sure if you think you disagree with me, are just nitpicking for the fun of it, or something else? by palata 1 hour ago

But a disposable vape is very clearly on the side of "should not exist, period". by palata 20 minutes ago

When we talk about "disposable vapes", we don't talk about something that lasts 10 years, do we?

Or do you think that the very word "disposable" should not exist, because after all, nothing will last longer than the sun? by palata 1 hour ago

My guy is out here pulling off the whole thing and tossing it in the trash. by x187463 2 hours ago

-Dril by jeej 3 hours ago

Fyi,

> Dune is a 1965 epic science fiction novel by American author Frank Herber

The distinction you're making wrt Jihad is also super modern and did not apply back then by ffsm8 2 hours ago

One reason is that the number of Christians in Sub-Saharan Africa is growing. But extrapolating the trends, yes Islam will probably become the largest religion in the coming decades.

Or at least maybe - looking at birth rates, it seems as second generation muslim immigrants to Western countries have even lower birth rates than the native population. That might happen also in regions say like Pakistan and Indonesia and other fast growing regions, depending on economical or other changes. by kpil 2 hours ago

https://baheyeldin.com/literature/arabic-and-islamic-themes-...

its true that the concept of a _holy war_ isnt unique to the muslim faith though. I never claimed that either however.

It's slightly surprising to me how few people seem to be aware of that in HN. Was expecting the general readership here to be a little less obsessively righteous and uninformed on a topic like this, but ymmv I guess by ffsm8 2 hours ago

I think you are misinterpreting the issue. I'll explain why.

There are attention-seekers which were given access to platforms with unprecedented reach. Some of these types tap into outrage culture as their engagement mechanism. This creates a vicious cycle of outrage which feeds on outputting outrageous claims and taking the resulting outrage as input to further double down on outputting outrageous claims. You then end up with opposing outrage camps of whatever subject you can think of which exist to generate a larger volume of outrage than the opposing camp.

The problem is that the terminally-online types confuse this sort of discourse with reality, and the outrageous claims as representative of what happens in real life. That's how you end up with people outraged with outrageous claims that are so outrageous to the point they are unthinkable. by motorest 0 minutes ago

No shit, I had no idea.

That explains a lot. I quit smoking (well, the first time I tried to quit) when I was 19 (2 years smoking). 3 months later I was in the hospital with sclerosing mesenteritis, a rare disorder for an older person but baffling and way out of left-field for a 19 year old with no prior history autoimmune issues. We only got a diagnosis after full exploratory surgery that earned me a six inch incision scar on my stomach.

Don't start smoking, kids. by wpm 1 hour ago

I vaped for around 8 years, about 4 years with typical flavorings and the last 4 years unflavored. IME unflavored vaping really isn't that bad, I accidentally switched to it because I ran out of flavoring one time and after a few days I didn't really miss them anymore so I just stopped using them.

I would compare it to people who drink soda all day, they can't fathom how people can drink "boring" plain water all day and they have a really hard time switching, but people who are used to drinking water find it as refreshing and satisfying as anything.

I think these flavorings cause more harm by luring young people to start vaping than they help smokers by luring them away from cigarettes. In an ideal world adults would be allowed to vape whatever they want, and teens wouldn't be able to get their hands on vapes in any capacity, but clearly that's not working so I think that flavor bans are a decent compromise.

I don't buy the argument that flavor bans will make teens go back to smoking. Cigarettes taste awful, they make you smell terrible, they irritate your lungs far more, they're far more expensive. If I was a teen I would still pick up unflavored vaping over cigarette smoking any time, but I'd be less likely to get into vaping without the flavorings. by dns_snek 10 hours ago

> A third of UK teenagers who vape will go on to start smoking tobacco, research shows, meaning they are as likely to smoke as their peers were in the 1970s.

> The findings suggest that e-cigarettes are increasingly acting as a “gateway” to nicotine cigarettes for children, undermining falling rates of teen smoking over the past 50 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/29/third-of-uk-... by afavour 13 hours ago

As far as I can tell, banning flavored vapes has had a significant impact on reducing vaping/smoking new users, which is the ultimate goal. People who are currently addicted should primarily be motivated to quit, not find better tasting alternatives by guywithahat 13 hours ago

In every place where plastic bags are banned, there’s a dramatic and obvious reduction in the amount of them clogging up trees, roads, fields, waterways, etc. If people need them for other purposes, they can buy them, while everyone else who doesn’t need them, doesn’t. by orev 3 hours ago